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Connected Discourses on Causation: SN12:18 Timbaruka

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1 Sāvatthiyaṃ viharati. Atha kho timbaruko paribbājako yena bhagavā tenupasankami; upasankamitvā bhagavatā saddhiṃ sammodi. Sammodanīyaṃ kathaṃ sāraṇīyaṃ vītisāretvā ekamantaṃ nisīdi. Ekamantaṃ nisinno kho timbaruko paribbājako bhagavantaṃ etadavoca: 

2 "Kiṃ nu kho, bho gotama, sayankataṃ sukhadukkhanti? Mā hevaṃ, timbarukāti bhagavā avoca. Kiṃ pana, bho gotama, parankataṃ sukhadukkhanti? Mā hevaṃ, timbarukāti bhagavā avoca. Kiṃ nu kho, bho gotama, sayankatañca parankatañca sukhadukkhanti? Mā hevaṃ, timbarukāti bhagavā avoca. Kiṃ pana, bho gotama, asayankāraṃ aparankāraṃ adhiccasamuppannaṃ sukhadukkhanti? Mā hevaṃ, timbarukāti bhagavā avoca. Kiṃ nu kho, bho gotama, natthi sukhadukkhanti? Na kho, timbaruka, natthi sukhadukkhaṃ; atthi kho, timbaruka, sukhadukkhanti. Tena hi bhavaṃ gotamo sukhadukkhaṃ na jānāti, na passatīti? Na khvāhaṃ, timbaruka, sukhadukkhaṃ na jānāmi, na passāmi. Jānāmi khvāhaṃ, timbaruka, sukhadukkhaṃ; passāmi khvāhaṃ, timbaruka, sukhadukkhan"ti.

3 "‘Kiṃ nu kho, bho gotama, sayankataṃ sukhadukkhan’ti iti puṭṭho samāno ‘mā hevaṃ, timbarukā’ti vadesi. ‘Kiṃ pana, bho gotama, parankataṃ sukhadukkhan’ti iti puṭṭho samāno ‘mā hevaṃ, timbarukā’ti vadesi. ‘Kiṃ nu kho, bho gotama, sayankatañca parankatañca sukhadukkhan’ti iti puṭṭho samāno ‘mā hevaṃ, timbarukā’ti vadesi. ‘Kiṃ pana, bho gotama, asayankāraṃ aparankāraṃ adhiccasamuppannaṃ sukhadukkhan’ti iti puṭṭho samāno ‘mā hevaṃ, timbarukā’ti vadesi. ‘Kiṃ nu kho, bho gotama, natthi sukhadukkhan’ti iti puṭṭho samāno ‘na kho, timbaruka, natthi sukhadukkhaṃ; atthi kho, timbaruka, sukhadukkhan’ti vadesi. ‘Tena hi bhavaṃ gotamo sukhadukkhaṃ na jānāti, na passatī’ti iti puṭṭho samāno ‘na khvāhaṃ, timbaruka, sukhadukkhaṃ na jānāmi, na passāmi. Jānāmi khvāhaṃ, timbaruka, sukhadukkhaṃ; passāmi khvāhaṃ, timbaruka, sukhadukkhan’ti vadesi. Ācikkhatu ca me bhavaṃ gotamo sukhadukkhaṃ. Desetu ca me bhavaṃ gotamo sukhadukkhan"ti.

4 "‘Sā vedanā, so vedayatī’ti kho, timbaruka, ādito sato ‘sayankataṃ sukhadukkhan’ti evampāhaṃ na vadāmi. ‘Aññā vedanā, añño vedayatī’ti kho, timbaruka, vedanābhitunnassa sato ‘parankataṃ sukhadukkhan’ti evampāhaṃ na vadāmi. Ete te, timbaruka, ubho ante anupagamma majjhena tathāgato dhammaṃ deseti:  ‘avijjāpaccayā sankhārā; sankhārapaccayā viññāṇaṃ … pe … evametassa kevalassa dukkhakkhandhassa samudayo hoti. Avijjāya tveva asesavirāganirodhā sankhāranirodho; sankhāranirodhā viññāṇanirodho … pe … evametassa kevalassa dukkhakkhandhassa nirodho hotī’"ti.

5 Evaṃ vutte, timbaruko paribbājako bhagavantaṃ etadavoca:  "abhikkantaṃ, bho gotama … pe … esāhaṃ bhavantaṃ gotamaṃ saraṇaṃ gacchāmi dhammañca bhikkhusanghañca. Upāsakaṃ maṃ bhavaṃ gotamo dhāretu ajjatagge pāṇupetaṃ saraṇaṃ gatan"ti.

Aṭṭhamaṃ.